Hard mode vs. Normal mode Mission completion - Guild Wars Forums

noggieca · Apr 20, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

With the introduction of Hard Mode, this now means that there are 2 times as many missions to do in all 3 campaigns. Now...

Completing a mission in normal mode does not give you the completion of it in hard mode. (understandable)
Completing a mission in hard mode does not give you the completion of it in normal mode. (now hold on a second)

Thus making it VERY hard to get groups for some of the harder (normal mode) missions.

So ..... if you have unlocked the hard mode on your account already with one character, meaning that that character has mastered all missions in a campaign, thus unlocking hard mode for all other characters on your account in that unlocked campaign.

Why is it not that if you do the mission in hard mode you do not get the normal mode reward?

If it is not going to be this way then unlocking hard mode should be character based not account based.

i.e. 2 characters on an account, character one has mastered all missions thus unlocking hard mode for the account. Character two is 1/2 way through Nightfall, but now can choose hard or normal mode for the missions ahead.

Do you see what I mean?

What say you all?

Mournblade · Apr 20, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

They're giving you the bonus of access to Hard Mode on all of your secondary characters without making you complete Normal mode with them first. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 20, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

You also don't have to have a character get Masters on all missions. Just finish the game.

Eldin · Apr 20, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54

I think they should make you get rewarded for normal mode if you do hard mode (at LEAST for the bonus which is the same).

This wouldn't matter too much for characters doing the missions of the continent they were born on, as to hit lvl 20 they likely played through them as normal. But for characters who are lvl 20 travelling to another continent, it is a must (especially because it's a pain having to do all the missions over on each character).

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 21, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by Eldin

I think they should make you get rewarded for normal mode if you do hard mode (at LEAST for the bonus which is the same).

Except they would be rewarding you twice and giving you a free title.

MTCOOLJ · Apr 21, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13

ive got a friend saying she completed the campaigns prophecies and factions and has access to factions hard mode but not prophecies she said she beat it with her derv... any idea why she cant access it? if this is in the wrong topic go on and flame me :P

TXgamer · Apr 21, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by noggieca

<snip>Thus making it VERY hard to get groups for some of the harder (normal mode) missions. <snip>

Basically they just doubled the game, 6 chapters now. And while there is a lot of additional content, it does split the player base yet again and you are totally correct, there will be less ppl to group with. As if it wasn't hard enough in Factions to find groups to do some of the later missions....

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Originally Posted by noggieca

What say you all?

I disagree with having missions that are completed on Hard Mode marked for all chars as completed in normal(dare I say easy mode

). Obviously this would mess up some of the titles, not to mention the additional play time for each char to get through any chapter. Once 1 char finished all missions and accessed Hard Mode, they could just do all those missions and then have any number of chars on thier account as "finishing the chapter" because it would all be done for all chars. And I'm sure it would create other problems that I haven't thought of.

Even though it splits the player base, I do like the addition of Hard Mode, for the simple reason that it adds more options and things to do for people playing the game, that is always a good thing in the long run.

Toasted Doughnuts · Apr 21, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

I think if you complete a mission in hard mode, you should get normal mode reward, if you can do it in hard, you can do it in normal and you have proven it, simple.

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 21, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23

But you haven't done it. If you want the reward for it then prove it by doing it in normal mode too.
You want double rewards and a free title just because you were able to beat the hardest of the two?

FoxBat · Apr 21, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Completing a mission on hard mode and not getting normal credit is like getting masters your first trip through a mission and not recieving the standard/expert rewards.

SotiCoto · Apr 21, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

They should just get rid of Hard Mode full stop. The whole thing is a terrible idea in any case, and the way it is implemented makes it worse tenfold.

**cosyfiep** · Apr 21, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26

yes. Now it will be almost impossible to get protector titles as everyone is doing hardmode instead.....ah well, guess thats why they gave us heroes, huh?

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 21, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Completing a mission on hard mode and not getting normal credit is like getting masters your first trip through a mission and not recieving the standard/expert rewards.

The difference is you still did standard/expert while you were getting masters.
You can't do normal mode while completing hard mode.

Apr 20, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#1
noggieca Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Guild: Ascalon elite Guard Profession: R/	Hard mode vs. Normal mode Mission completion With the introduction of Hard Mode, this now means that there are 2 times as many missions to do in all 3 campaigns. Now... Completing a mission in normal mode does not give you the completion of it in hard mode. (understandable) Completing a mission in hard mode does not give you the completion of it in normal mode. (now hold on a second) Thus making it VERY hard to get groups for some of the harder (normal mode) missions. So ..... if you have unlocked the hard mode on your account already with one character, meaning that that character has mastered all missions in a campaign, thus unlocking hard mode for all other characters on your account in that unlocked campaign. Why is it not that if you do the mission in hard mode you do not get the normal mode reward? If it is not going to be this way then unlocking hard mode should be character based not account based. i.e. 2 characters on an account, character one has mastered all missions thus unlocking hard mode for the account. Character two is 1/2 way through Nightfall, but now can choose hard or normal mode for the missions ahead. Do you see what I mean? What say you all?

Apr 20, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37	#2
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	They're giving you the bonus of access to Hard Mode on all of your secondary characters without making you complete Normal mode with them first. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Apr 20, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26	#3
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	You also don't have to have a character get Masters on all missions. Just finish the game.

Apr 20, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#4
Eldin Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: America. How about you, commie? Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM] Profession: R/Mo	I think they should make you get rewarded for normal mode if you do hard mode (at LEAST for the bonus which is the same). This wouldn't matter too much for characters doing the missions of the continent they were born on, as to hit lvl 20 they likely played through them as normal. But for characters who are lvl 20 travelling to another continent, it is a must (especially because it's a pain having to do all the missions over on each character).

Apr 21, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13	#6
MTCOOLJ Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Royal Asacalonian Vanguard Profession: W/R	ive got a friend saying she completed the campaigns prophecies and factions and has access to factions hard mode but not prophecies she said she beat it with her derv... any idea why she cant access it? if this is in the wrong topic go on and flame me :P

Apr 21, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50	#8
Toasted Doughnuts Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: Hot N Kinky Bunnies[LoVe] Profession: Mo/E	I think if you complete a mission in hard mode, you should get normal mode reward, if you can do it in hard, you can do it in normal and you have proven it, simple.

Apr 21, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23	#9
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	But you haven't done it. If you want the reward for it then prove it by doing it in normal mode too. You want double rewards and a free title just because you were able to beat the hardest of the two?

Apr 21, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50	#10
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	Completing a mission on hard mode and not getting normal credit is like getting masters your first trip through a mission and not recieving the standard/expert rewards.

Apr 21, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57	#11
SotiCoto Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drazach Thicket Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]	They should just get rid of Hard Mode full stop. The whole thing is a terrible idea in any case, and the way it is implemented makes it worse tenfold.

Apr 21, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#12
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	yes. Now it will be almost impossible to get protector titles as everyone is doing hardmode instead.....ah well, guess thats why they gave us heroes, huh?